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Traveller-digest    Wednesday, November 3 1999    Volume 1999 : Number 1299<BR>
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(R)1996. Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.<BR>
All rights reserved.<BR>
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The following topics are covered in this digest:<BR>
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Re: [OT] Cultural Differences...<BR>
Re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
Re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
Re: Critical Mass<BR>
Re: Violent Outlet (Was Re: A Day of Peace)<BR>
Re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
Re: Diplomacy - Was Re: 'general war' 5FFW [WAS long]<BR>
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
Re: Festival of Rethe (was: Re: A Day of Peace)<BR>
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
Solomani Rim data<BR>
Cargonaut Press/Keith Supplements<BR>
Re: Where the heck is Scangen?<BR>
Re: Re Aslan<BR>
re: Cargonaut Press<BR>
re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: Paying for health care<BR>
Re Aslan<BR>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:52:52 EST<BR>
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com<BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Cultural Differences...<BR>
<BR>
In a message dated 11/2/99 9:00:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, tiamat@tsoft.com <BR>
writes:<BR>
<BR>
<< How much does it cost to ship Coke overseas?  I am dreadfully allergic to<BR>
 corn, and yes, that is what is in Coca-Cola here.  (I love lamb chops, and<BR>
 Australia is how close to Japan?  Hmmm.... wonder if Hiroshi could be<BR>
 persuaded to do music promotions in Australia.  Probably not, sigh.)<BR>
 <BR>
 Kiri >><BR>
<BR>
Kiri;<BR>
<BR>
Here's a long shot. Ask Coca-Cola if they can send you a batch of "Kosher for <BR>
Passover" Coke. It's made with another type of sugar, since corn isn't kosher <BR>
during Passover. It should be noted that I've ONLY seen it in US metropolitan <BR>
areas that have large Jewish populations and only in the month before <BR>
Passover...Good luck. <BR>
<BR>
As an interesting side note Kosher food is getting more and more popular in <BR>
the US. Muslims love it because they know there will be no pork products in <BR>
it, and many non Jews think it's cleaner and/or healthier for you. I can't <BR>
vouch for this, though I can't see a Rabbi signing off on a dirty assembly <BR>
line. They are as tough as a Marine DI inspecting a rack, when it comes to <BR>
inspecting the food prep area for non kosher food remnants...<BR>
<BR>
Seth<BR>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:06:12 -0500<BR>
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
<BR>
- ----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: cjbrain <cjbrain@bigpond.com><BR>
> I picked up a book by Pierce Askegren called Gateway to the Stars, it<BR>
states<BR>
> on the cover "The First Traveller Novel". Does anyone know if the other<BR>
> books in this series were written and published?<BR>
<BR>
As bad as that book is I'm sure there will never be another in the series.<BR>
<BR>
> It also mentions a *bonus* All-new Traveller module by Marc Miller. Which<BR>
> adventure could this be? It's not Gateway to the Stars.<BR>
<BR>
The mini intro / sales pamphlet in the back of the book is your "bonus"<BR>
(bogus) module.  Enjoy.<BR>
<BR>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>
The TRAVELLER Domain<BR>
http://www.downport.com<BR>
Colin Michael, WebDev<BR>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:23:51 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@aracnet.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
<BR>
> ----- Original Message -----<BR>
> From: cjbrain <cjbrain@bigpond.com><BR>
> > I picked up a book by Pierce Askegren called Gateway to the Stars, it<BR>
> states<BR>
> > on the cover "The First Traveller Novel". Does anyone know if the other<BR>
> > books in this series were written and published?<BR>
> <BR>
> As bad as that book is I'm sure there will never be another in the series.<BR>
> <BR>
> > It also mentions a *bonus* All-new Traveller module by Marc Miller. Which<BR>
> > adventure could this be? It's not Gateway to the Stars.<BR>
> <BR>
> The mini intro / sales pamphlet in the back of the book is your "bonus"<BR>
> (bogus) module.  Enjoy.<BR>
> <BR>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>
> The TRAVELLER Domain<BR>
> http://www.downport.com<BR>
> Colin Michael, WebDev<BR>
> <BR>
<BR>
Was this the first TNE novel?  Or the T4 novel?  There were two TNE novels,<BR>
unfortunatly the 3rd was apparently a casuality of the fall of GDW (someone<BR>
please correct me and tell me it came out).<BR>
<BR>
				Zane<BR>
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:28:02 GMT<BR>
From: j_pete@bellsouth.net (Pete)<BR>
Subject: Re: Critical Mass<BR>
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On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:23:00 +1300, "Frank Pitt"<BR>
<frankie@mundens.gen.nz> wrote:<BR>
>> q: Why don't the British make computers?<BR>
>> a: they haven't found a way of getting one to leak oil<BR>
><BR>
>Which of course ignores the fact that the British have always made the best<BR>
>computers<BR>
>( The BBC model B, and the later ARM based systems. )<BR>
<BR>
Aren't most people born with dual processor arm based computers?? I<BR>
understand they're limited to displaying ten digits (shop teachers<BR>
usually display fewer than ten.)<BR>
<BR>
;-)<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:38:37 -0500<BR>
From: Juliean Galak <jg42@cornell.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: Violent Outlet (Was Re: A Day of Peace)<BR>
<BR>
At 10:44 AM 11/3/99 +1000, you wrote:<BR>
>The strange story I heard about was that there was a direct correlation<BR>
>between the number of daiper pins sold each year and the US road toll! It<BR>
>came up in a short story by (I think) Theodore Sturgeon called "Occam's <BR>
>Scalpel"<BR>
>(a darn good read, too) and I had heard it somewhere else, before that.<BR>
<BR>
A standard and well known example of this is the correlation between <BR>
women's skirt length and sunspots.  Both seem to be on an 11 year cycle...<BR>
<BR>
           -- Juliean Galak (a.k.a. Falcon)<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
jg42@cornell.edu        "I do not agree with a word you say, but I will<BR>
                          defend to the death your right to say it."<BR>
                                              -- Francois Marie Voltaire<BR>
#include <disclaimer.h> "Imagination is more important than knowledge"<BR>
                          			     -- Albert Einstein<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:44:30 -0500<BR>
From: Juliean Galak <jg42@cornell.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
<BR>
At 07:23 PM 11/2/99 -0800, you wrote:<BR>
>Was this the first TNE novel?  Or the T4 novel?  There were two TNE novels,<BR>
>unfortunatly the 3rd was apparently a casuality of the fall of GDW (someone<BR>
>please correct me and tell me it came out).<BR>
<BR>
This one was published by IG, so I presume it's a T4 one (I don't remember <BR>
anything in the book being clearly tied to a specific Milieu).<BR>
<BR>
As to quality, I thought it was fairly decent, for a gaming <BR>
novel...  Unfortunately, it very much was a "first of a series" novel, and <BR>
the rest of the series died with the death of IG.<BR>
<BR>
           -- Juliean Galak (a.k.a. Falcon)<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
jg42@cornell.edu        "I do not agree with a word you say, but I will<BR>
                          defend to the death your right to say it."<BR>
                                              -- Francois Marie Voltaire<BR>
#include <disclaimer.h> "Imagination is more important than knowledge"<BR>
                          			     -- Albert Einstein<BR>
for PGP public-key and<BR>
more quotes, http://gerfalcon.tzo.com/plan.htm<BR>
WWW Page: http://gerfalcon.tzo.com/                <BR>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:10:13 PST<BR>
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)<BR>
Subject: Re: Diplomacy - Was Re: 'general war' 5FFW [WAS long]<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
> I don't have a port of "Diplomacy" but I did find the game for the PC<BR>
> <MS-DOS Based> that plays okay. Not very big and it's freeware. I can attach<BR>
> it to an email if someone wants it.<BR>
<BR>
There was a PC version of Diplomacy released 10-15 years back. But it<BR>
wasn't freeware. And given that one of the big toy/game companies owns<BR>
the rights to Diplomacy, there *can't* be a "freeware" version. Any<BR>
version is either with the copyright/trademark holder's permission (and<BR>
*not* freeware!) or it'll be an illegal copy.<BR>
<BR>
Ask the folks who tried distributing "freeware" versions of Monopoly<BR>
back in the 80s. <BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:14:23 -0700<BR>
From: cos 90 <cos90@powersurfr.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
<BR>
>> Maybe not legally, but if you got it into your head to go to Nevada,<BR>
>> buy a semi-auto gun, and bring it back home to California, what could<BR>
>> possibly stop you?<BR>
><BR>
>The gun store in Nevada wouldn't sell it to you, for one. When you buy a<BR>
>gun, you have to give them ID, and they'll say, "sorry, we can't sell you<BR>
>that because it's illegal in California." Of course, you could always buy<BR>
>illegally from a private individual, but you don't need to go to Nevada for<BR>
>that--there are plenty of street corners in LA.<BR>
<BR>
Then you get a friend who lives in Nevada to buy the gun for you. There<BR>
is still nothing that will physically prevent you from bringing the gun <BR>
across the Nevada/California state line, which is the point I'm trying to<BR>
make. Try bringing it across the US/Canada border into Canada, on the <BR>
other hand, and there *is* something that will physically prevent you.<BR>
They work for the federal government...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
     Glenn St-Germain  Edmonton, Alberta, Canada <BR>
cos90@powersurfr.com  http://plaza.powersurfr.com/glenn<BR>
        "There is no longer any normal to be"<BR>
                                 -- Gary Numan<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 19:29:15<BR>
From: "Douglas E. Berry" <gridlore@pop.mindspring.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Festival of Rethe (was: Re: A Day of Peace)<BR>
<BR>
At 07:28 AM 11/2/1999 -0600, you wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>And the #1 saying on Mardi Gras is?<BR>
>(Hint: It's not "Throw me something, Mister!")<BR>
<BR>
"No way, that's another $5, buddy."<BR>
- -- <BR>
<BR>
Douglas E. Berry       gridlore@mindspring.com<BR>
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/index.html<BR>
<BR>
"Soon the rapacious sea chickens/will carry you off<BR>
and wrap you in a hard shell, yum yum."<BR>
       Poorly translated Argentine Taco Bell jingle.<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:26:19 -0700<BR>
From: cos 90 <cos90@powersurfr.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
<BR>
>> Maybe not legally, but if you got it into your head to go to Nevada,<BR>
>> buy a semi-auto gun, and bring it back home to California, what could<BR>
>> possibly stop you? <BR>
><BR>
>Per federal law, you are not allowed to purchase handguns outside your state<BR>
>of residence.  You are allowed to purchase longguns and shotguns, but the<BR>
>laws of both states (the state where the purchase is and the state of the<BR>
>purchasers residence) must be followed.<BR>
<BR>
Wow, you *really* missed my point... we aren't talking laws here, we're<BR>
talking about being able to take an object from one US state to a <BR>
neighbouring US state without being stopped for inspection at the state<BR>
line. And as long as people can do that, one state's gun law is not going<BR>
to have the desired effect on the availability of guns in that state.<BR>
This is why, for instance, Washington DC's gun-control laws have not had<BR>
much discernable effect.<BR>
<BR>
>> be after the fact. That's why gun laws at anything less than <BR>
>> a national level are doomed to failure.<BR>
><BR>
>Of course, even national laws are doomed to failure if enough people act<BR>
>against it.  How many illegal drugs are imported into Canada?<BR>
<BR>
Nowhere near as much as into the USA... :)<BR>
<BR>
>Remember Prohibition?<BR>
<BR>
Not personally. But alcohol is easy to make -- I've done it myself (my<BR>
dad and I used to make our own beer). I know of very few people who are<BR>
able to manufacture automatic and semi-automatic weapons in their own<BR>
homes...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
     Glenn St-Germain  Edmonton, Alberta, Canada <BR>
cos90@powersurfr.com  http://plaza.powersurfr.com/glenn<BR>
        "There is no longer any normal to be"<BR>
                                 -- Gary Numan<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 23:40:05 -0500<BR>
From: Kurt Feltenberger <kurt@blazenet.net><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
<BR>
At 09:26 PM 11/2/99 -0700, you wrote:<BR>
> >> Maybe not legally, but if you got it into your head to go to Nevada,<BR>
> >> buy a semi-auto gun, and bring it back home to California, what could<BR>
> >> possibly stop you?<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Per federal law, you are not allowed to purchase handguns outside your state<BR>
> >of residence.  You are allowed to purchase longguns and shotguns, but the<BR>
> >laws of both states (the state where the purchase is and the state of the<BR>
> >purchasers residence) must be followed.<BR>
><BR>
>Wow, you *really* missed my point... we aren't talking laws here, we're<BR>
>talking about being able to take an object from one US state to a<BR>
>neighbouring US state without being stopped for inspection at the state<BR>
>line. And as long as people can do that, one state's gun law is not going<BR>
>to have the desired effect on the availability of guns in that state.<BR>
>This is why, for instance, Washington DC's gun-control laws have not had<BR>
>much discernable effect.<BR>
<BR>
No effect on the law abiding citizens.  For example, you may only take <BR>
possession of a purchased handgun (of any make, model, action, or caliber) <BR>
in the state you live in.  You can _purchase_ the weapon from anyone or any <BR>
dealer in any state, but to legally take possession you must have it sent <BR>
to a local FFL holder in your state to do the paper work.<BR>
<BR>
Then you have California and Maryland.  California laws are plainly silly, <BR>
asinine, and senseless, but they are the laws of the state.  Maryland on <BR>
the other hand has a list of handguns that they will allow you to <BR>
purchase.  Want a Smith and Wesson SW99?  You won't get one in Maryland <BR>
until next year, yet you can get the Walther P-99, essentially the same <BR>
weapon except for some cosmetic changes and different spring weights, at <BR>
any dealer that will stock it.<BR>
<BR>
Gun control laws do work, but only when they are enforced.  The AG in <BR>
Maryland is starting to come under fire for proposing new restrictions when <BR>
it has been found out that his office has rarely prosecuted on any of the <BR>
existing laws.<BR>
<BR>
Repeal the asinine laws we have, get sensible legislation in place, and let <BR>
me arm myself to the same level as the military since as a citizen, I am <BR>
part of the "militia"!<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> >> be after the fact. That's why gun laws at anything less than<BR>
> >> a national level are doomed to failure.<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Of course, even national laws are doomed to failure if enough people act<BR>
> >against it.  How many illegal drugs are imported into Canada?<BR>
><BR>
>Nowhere near as much as into the USA... :)<BR>
><BR>
> >Remember Prohibition?<BR>
><BR>
>Not personally. But alcohol is easy to make -- I've done it myself (my<BR>
>dad and I used to make our own beer). I know of very few people who are<BR>
>able to manufacture automatic and semi-automatic weapons in their own<BR>
>homes...<BR>
<BR>
Any time you say, "No, you can not do X", even if you never wanted to do X, <BR>
you will now because it is forbidden fruit.<BR>
<BR>
Kurt Feltenberger<BR>
kurt@blazenet.net<BR>
Morrow Project Campaign http://www.sol-3.net<BR>
WT-L Support Pages http://www.sol-3.net/wt-l<BR>
<BR>
"To our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations,<BR>
      may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong!"<BR>
~Stephen Decatur<BR>
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 00:08:39 -0500<BR>
From: Juliean Galak <jg42@cornell.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
<BR>
At 09:26 PM 11/2/99 -0700, you wrote:<BR>
>Not personally. But alcohol is easy to make -- I've done it myself (my<BR>
>dad and I used to make our own beer). I know of very few people who are<BR>
>able to manufacture automatic and semi-automatic weapons in their own<BR>
>homes...<BR>
<BR>
Anyone with a decent machine shop.... (I have at least three <BR>
friends/aquaintances that have full metalworking shops at home)  The really <BR>
hard thing to do (I suspect) is casings....<BR>
<BR>
           -- Juliean Galak (a.k.a. Falcon)<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
jg42@cornell.edu        "I do not agree with a word you say, but I will<BR>
                          defend to the death your right to say it."<BR>
                                              -- Francois Marie Voltaire<BR>
#include <disclaimer.h> "Imagination is more important than knowledge"<BR>
                          			     -- Albert Einstein<BR>
for PGP public-key and<BR>
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WWW Page: http://gerfalcon.tzo.com/                <BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:16:28 EST<BR>
From: JFZeigler@aol.com<BR>
Subject: Solomani Rim data<BR>
<BR>
Hmmmm.<BR>
<BR>
Has anyone ever noticed that the worlds of the Solomani Rim don't<BR>
appear to have been generated using the standard CT rules?<BR>
<BR>
Picking an example at random, take 1738 Hamilcar A26A9AA-E.<BR>
<BR>
I can buy a world of size 2 having a type 6 atmosphere.  That just needs<BR>
a roll of 11 on 2d6.  Rare, but possible (although there seem to be a lot<BR>
of similar cases in this set).<BR>
<BR>
Can anyone explain to me how a world of size 2 can have a hydrographic<BR>
code of A?  How do you roll a 15 or higher on 2d6?<BR>
<BR>
Anyone have any insights?  I need to figure out what to do with these<BR>
super-implausible worlds. . .and taking a bottle of white-out to the<BR>
canonical UWPs is starting to look tempting.<BR>
<BR>
- ----------<BR>
Jon F. Zeigler: Mathematician, computer geek, amateur historian, freelance<BR>
writer, occasional scribbler of bad poetry<BR>
"For any statement, no matter how innocuous, there exists a nonempty<BR>
set of people who will take offense at it."<BR>
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:40:37 -0800<BR>
From: Jerry Paul Sanders <timmon@primenet.com><BR>
Subject: Cargonaut Press/Keith Supplements<BR>
<BR>
At 05:51 AM 11/3/99 +1000, you wrote:<BR>
>What ever happened to Cargonaut Press and the books Paul Sanders was<BR>
>publishing?<BR>
<BR>
He's printing them in every spare moment - just finished the Imperial<BR>
Calendars last night and am spending this evening putting the covers on.<BR>
It's getting close folks, and I am trying to get as many printed before I<BR>
leave home on a trip for three weeks in December. More updates as I mail<BR>
them out (in batches of 15) starting next weekend. <BR>
<BR>
I've dedicated the Imperial Calendar and Reavers' Deep Sector Sourcebook to<BR>
J. Andrew Keith -- just heard back from Bill Keith and he seemed pleased. I<BR>
also offered to pass on any condolences the TML might wish to send - he was<BR>
*VERY* receptive to that idea - so - send 'em and I'll see that Bill gets<BR>
them.<BR>
<BR>
Before I forget - below are the final page counts on the supplements.<BR>
<BR>
Faldor - 77<BR>
Letter of Marque - 89<BR>
Scam - 66<BR>
Starport/Planetfall - 47<BR>
Arctic Environment - 37<BR>
<BR>
Reavers' Deep - 63<BR>
Imperial Calendar - 32<BR>
<BR>
Questions/comments? Email me at: timmon@primenet.com<BR>
<BR>
Cordially,<BR>
Paul Sanders<BR>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:32:40 -0600<BR>
From: Steven Bonneville <bonnevil@ima.umn.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: Where the heck is Scangen?<BR>
<BR>
Kenneth Bearden wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> > > Scangen       2937 B88557A-C    Ni As              224 Vk<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Subsector P-Firgr  and Vk is Commonality of Kedzudh<BR>
> ><BR>
> > I think that was an arbitrary, non-canon placement by Roger Myhre for his<BR>
> > Gvurrdon work for HIWG.  I've never been convinced by it.<BR>
><BR>
> The official Scangen placement is detailed in DGP's Vargr&Vilani alien <BR>
> book.  The above placement does sound correct, according to the DGP<BR>
> placement (who made beautiful Traveller maps, covering the entire<BR>
> Imperium, with exact star placement).<BR>
<BR>
I actually can't find any reference to Scangen there.  I did find that <BR>
_Emissary_ is based out of Pandrin (Gvurrdon 2240).  The map for 5FW <BR>
agrees with this; it also shows the worlds Balent (Gvurrdon 2340), <BR>
Uthith (Gvurrdon 2339) and Gireel (Gvurrdon 2338).  V&V claims that<BR>
Uthith is at Gvurrdon 2703, but that's almost certainly a typo since<BR>
that's the same as its hex number on the 5FW board.  The 5FW hex number<BR>
has nothing to do with any sane sector hex numbering system -- 5FW 2703  <BR>
is the same as Gvurrdon 2339 on the board.<BR>
<BR>
I still don't like 2937 as the answer, but there isn't much counter<BR>
evidence either.  Sigh.<BR>
<BR>
  -- Steve Bonneville<BR>
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 00:50:46 -0500<BR>
From: Mark Urbin <eclipse@ultranet.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Re Aslan<BR>
<BR>
Kiri Aradia Morgan <tiamat@tsoft.com> types:<BR>
 >On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Leonard Erickson wrote:<BR>
 >> > This does NOT make sense.  How do you get 4 wives in a society with 5<BR>
 >> > females to every 2 males?  I realize that not everyone can afford to <BR>
marry<BR>
 >> > and have children, but I bet prostitution is a really brisk business--<BR>
 >> > unless the females go into heat, and males aren't bothered without the<BR>
 >> > olfactory cues!<BR>
 >> Actually, I'd see prostitution as being *uncommon*. Remember, the<BR>
 >> females are "in charge". And if landless males don't "get any" that<BR>
 >> just explains why they are so much more agressive.<BR>
 >You're assuming prostitution is something women only do when they have no<BR>
 >other choice.  That's not always the case.  Some women like the work.<BR>
 >I wouldn't do prostitution, actual sex for hire, but when I was younger I<BR>
 >did wonder if exotic dancing didn't beat typing as a way to spend 8 hours.<BR>
 >Now that I'm older, I wish I'd done it-- more money, more time to play<BR>
 >games, and I'd have made it thru school without loans.<BR>
<BR>
Bit of a minor scandal here in New England a few years back.  A young woman <BR>
put herself through Brown University that way (exotic dancing).  Once she <BR>
got her degree, she wrote a book about it.  FYI, for those not familiar <BR>
with US Universities, Brown is one of the "Ivy League" schools.<BR>
<BR>
Modern Gothic Horror author Poppy Z. Brite made her living that way in <BR>
Atlanta for a few years before she made her living  writing books.<BR>
<BR>
ObTrav:  The T4 book has a series of adventure plates (full paged pictures) <BR>
about a young Nobel traveling with a band.  The band is actually backup for <BR>
a famous exotic dancer.  (ok...so it's a stretch...most ob-travs are...)<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:27:34 +0000<BR>
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com><BR>
Subject: re: Cargonaut Press<BR>
<BR>
At 21:46 -0500 2/11/99, "cjbrain" <cjbrain@bigpond.com> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>>What ever happened to Cargonaut Press and the books Paul Sanders <BR>
>>was publishing?<BR>
<BR>
If you look back in the last thirty or so Digests 1260-> (which I've <BR>
read since returning from a short break away this weekend) Paul <BR>
Sanders posted something about renaming an asteroid (or another <BR>
celestial body) in the Faldor module after J Andrew Keith. To me this <BR>
would suggest that he is continuing with this project. I hope (1) he <BR>
has some copies left and (2) I can get the cash to order one set.<BR>
<BR>
Dom<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:29:33 +0000<BR>
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com><BR>
Subject: re: Traveller Book Question - Gateway to the Stars<BR>
<BR>
At 21:46 -0500 2/11/99, "cjbrain" <cjbrain@bigpond.com> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>I picked up a book by Pierce Askegren called Gateway to the Stars, it states<BR>
>on the cover "The First Traveller Novel". Does anyone know if the other<BR>
>books in this series were written and published?<BR>
<BR>
None that I'm aware of. It'd have been nice to have seen an error <BR>
corrected version...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
>It also mentions a *bonus* All-new Traveller module by Marc Miller. Which<BR>
>>adventure could this be? It's not Gateway to the Stars.<BR>
<BR>
It is the short section at the back on character generation which <BR>
appears to be a lift from T4.1 -<BR>
<BR>
Dom<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:51:31 -0500<BR>
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
>I get loads of GPFs from Windows Explorer ... even when  its  not<BR>
>running!  I now use the Litestep shell but  still  get GPFs  from<BR>
>EXPLORER.EXE.  Its almost time  for  the  biannual  reformat  and<BR>
>reinstall.<BR>
<BR>
You shouldn't be getting any at all.  The prime culprit for those is the<BR>
video driver.  Some of them don't work in Windows 95 without a tweak or two.<BR>
For instance, one card from Matrox I used sets itself at "optimal" which was<BR>
causing me Blue screens right and left.  When I experimented and set it for<BR>
"adapter default" they went away.<BR>
<BR>
Another thing could be shared DLLs left over from un-installs.  Those will<BR>
flake out your system too.  Your plans for a FORMAT will clear this up.  In<BR>
fact Microsoft itself advises a yearly formatting and re-installation of<BR>
windows.<BR>
<BR>
Another thing could be any odd 16-bit programs that don't like windows (or<BR>
that windows don't like).  Windows is a primarily 32-bit operating system<BR>
(noted exceptions gdi.exe and user.exe which are STILL 16-bit).  I have read<BR>
that some 16 bit applications will cause system instability.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:24:58 +1300<BR>
From: "Frank Pitt" <frankie@mundens.gen.nz><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
> You got DirectX to install under NT4?  How?  I was told the installer<BR>
won't<BR>
> even run....<BR>
<BR>
DirectX comes with NT4.0 on the modern OEM disks, it has worked withn it<BR>
since the  IE4.0 browser update.<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:28:29 +1300<BR>
From: "Frank Pitt" <frankie@mundens.gen.nz><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
> >When I moved from Win95 OSR2 to Win98 (1st ed) the number of blue<BR>
> >screens  halved.  Still  bad  though.   Funny  thing  is  I  like<BR>
> >MS Excel and MS IE5.  Linux looks like the way  forward  (when  I<BR>
> >have more time).<BR>
><BR>
> Rumor going around Microsoft may actually be considering porting<BR>
> some Office apps to Linux ...<BR>
<BR>
Or you can use the free Star Office that reads all MS document files<BR>
<BR>
> (sources: 1, one of the O'Reilly "Perl" books flat-out states MS is<BR>
> considering porting Visual Basic for Apps to Unix; 2, comments from<BR>
> an unnamed source, corroborating 1--why port VB for APPS if you're<BR>
> not porting those Apps?)<BR>
<BR>
I wouldn't be surprised, Gates has being selling his shares in the OS arm of<BR>
Microsoft to increase his holdings in the Applications arm according to<BR>
reports in Computerworld<BR>
<BR>
Frankie<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:48:53 +1300<BR>
From: "Frank Pitt" <frankie@mundens.gen.nz><BR>
Subject: Re: Paying for health care<BR>
<BR>
> Been reading Cyberpunk/Shadowrun have you?  They both have similar styles<BR>
> of 'Health Insurance'.<BR>
<BR>
I have read (and now own) Shadowrun, yes.<BR>
<BR>
But we came up with this before Shadowrun came out, way back in the very<BR>
early eighties, and we actually based it on a couple of things mentioned in<BR>
the Car Wars supplements a freind had.<BR>
<BR>
Heck, we even had our own game that was remakably like Shadowrun , based<BR>
around the  "Grimjack" stories before any of opur group actually boought<BR>
Shadowrun.<BR>
<BR>
Frankie<BR>
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:58:58 -0900<BR>
From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net><BR>
Subject: Re Aslan<BR>
<BR>
><BR>
>> No, since, for the most part, only first sons will be breeders anyway...<BR>
>> And remember, Aslan are Polygamous, not polyandrous (Multiple wives, fine,<BR>
>> Multiple Husbands, no)... so those with the land get to breed, as they can<BR>
>> afford to support a wife. At least pre-space. Then, consider that the birth<BR>
>> rate is supposedly something like 5:2 Female to Male, and typical<BR>
>> landowners will begat 1-3 children on each of 1-4 wives, and you have a<BR>
>> sudden population problem.<BR>
>><BR>
>This does NOT make sense.  How do you get 4 wives in a society with 5<BR>
>females to every 2 males?  I realize that not everyone can afford to marry<BR>
>and have children, but I bet prostitution is a really brisk business--<BR>
>unless the females go into heat, and males aren't bothered without the<BR>
>olfactory cues!<BR>
<BR>
Makes perfect sense based upon AM: Aslan [GDW]. Of the 5, 1 male will<BR>
either become a vassal, an artist or outcast (who are socially "Neuter", in<BR>
a sense, and not good mates), or find work away from the lands... Of the<BR>
females, about 2 in 5, IIRC, go into buisiness. Typical aslan families are<BR>
supposedly 2-3 children per wife. with an average of 3 wives, that puts 7<BR>
children, generally an heir, a spare, enough daughters to take over the<BR>
family buisiness(es), and a spare, plus a couple of extras. IIRC, it is<BR>
mentioned both in the Contact! article and AM1 that only half of female<BR>
aslan get married, and fewer than that in the males...<BR>
<BR>
Another thing is that the sexual cycles are not discussed in either the<BR>
Contact! article nor the CT AM1 Aslan module, other than to mention<BR>
duration of gestation, live birth, and in-vivo gestation.<BR>
<BR>
Aslan gender-based roles, however, are explicit. Males are doers, fighters,<BR>
and button pushers... real technical expertise is for women, as is<BR>
buisiness acumen. Even military ships will have females aboard (usually the<BR>
Exec is the Captain's wife) for the appropriate jobs. Outcasts and Artists<BR>
can break this mold with litle social penalty, but in so doing also<BR>
separate themselves form mainstream Aslani society. Also, Aslan are<BR>
Culturally Imperialistic... An aslan who is not living an aslan life is not<BR>
an Aslan... but a human who lives the aslan life, speaks Trokh, and duels<BR>
IS Aslan.<BR>
<BR>
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